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Kikrusher99's Fire Promoter ideas

Postby kikrusher99 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:20 pm

So im trying to figure out the best way of

1. Deciding which promotions I want in my world
2. How to draft wrestlers
3. How to utilize legends and freelance wrestlers and how to keep it balanced.

For promotions, I'm thinking about trying to get a semi equal spread per territory. For the WWE, I'm still kicking around the idea of 3 separate promotions in raw, sd and nxt. However, I figure if I made them all one single promotion, it would be a super indy, basically.

Also, 3 promotions would kinda kill my equality idea. With 16 promotions, that's basically 3 in Japan, 3 in Mexico, 3 in Europe, 3 in America, and then the list 4 being a split of free and legend wrestlers/promotions.

Promtions I'm considering
America
- WWE
Spoiler: show
1. Cena
2. Reigns
3. Rollins
4. Lesnar
5. Roderick
6. Itami
7. AJ Styles
8. Samoa Joe
9. HHH
10. Gargano
11. Nakamura
12. Owens
13. Zayn
14. Balor
15. Rusev
16. Ohno
17. Black
18. Cien Almas
19. Daniel Bryan
20. Ken Shamrock
21. Goldberg
22. Batista
23. Ricochet
24. Adam Cole
25. Kyle O'Reilly
26. Bobby Fish
27. Ciampa
28. Undertaker
29. Kane
30. The Rock

-PWG
-ROH
-CZW or GCW
-AAW

Mexico
-CMLL
-AAA
-The Crash

Europe
-Progress
-Rev Pro
-wXw

Japan
-NJPW
Spoiler: show
1. Okada
2. Goto
3. Ishii
4. Ospreay
5. Naito
6. SANADA
7. BUSHI
8. Hiromu Takahashi
9. EVIL
10. Liger
11. Omega
12. Matt Jackson
13. Nick Jackson
14. Minoru Suzuki
15. TAKA Michinoku
16. El Desperado
17. Jay White
18. Tanahashi
19. Nagata
20. Scurll
21. Hashimoto
22. Chono
23. Scott Norton
24. Kota Ibushi
25. Chris Jericho
26. Rey Mysterio
27. Shibata
28. Toru Yano
29. Zack Sabre Jr

-AJPW
Spoiler: show
1. Misawa
2. Kawada
3. Kobashi
4. Taue
5. Hansen
6. Brody
7. Great Muta
8. Miyahara
9. Joe Doering
10. Kojima
11. Vader
12. SUWAMA
13. Ishikawa
14. Akiyama
15. Tsuruta
16. Tenryu
17. Zeus
18. Bodyguard
19. Daisuke Sekimoto
20. Yuji Okabayashi
21. Kengo Mashimo
22. Ryoji Sai
23. Yoshitatsu
24. Atsushi Aoki
25. Naoya Nomura
26. Yuma Aoyagi

-Noah
-BJW

Legend promotions
-FMW ECW mix
-WWF

For trying to draft wrestlers, other than sitting down... well shit, the random select in World stinks. I honestly don't know how ill do a draft. Maybe I'll just place everybody wherever I see fit.

I do want to keep it somewhat equal, at least from the start. I'm not wanting to have super stacked rosters (my wwe dilemma) with all top guys that will dominate early.

And lastly, I want to have some creative freedom like say Cena could end up in AJPW or something like having Hayabusa in NJPW tagging with Liger or FMW guys either paired up with ECW guys or maybe BJW.

So if anybody has any ideas, I'm all ears. It will probably be easier once we actually have the mode to play with, but I'm having fun coming up with scenarios and thinking of new places for old guys.
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Re: Help booking my rosters for MOR

Postby kikrusher99 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:10 pm

I'm also curious what people are thinking about doing for tag teams. From what I remember of the old MOTR mode, there weren't any set tag teams, and getting both partners on the same show could be difficult if trying to steal them from another promotion. I'd hope spike has considered this.

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Re: Help booking my rosters for MOR

Postby kikrusher99 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:11 pm

Compiled a list of all WWE personnel that ill wanna use. It's pretty big, and I might wanna cut some names but idk what tag teams in this game will look like.
Spoiler: show
1. Apollo Crews
2. Braun Strowman
3. Bray Wyatt
4. Brock Lesnar
5. Cesaro
6. Dash Wilder
7. Dean Ambrose
8. Finn Bálor
9. John Cena
10. Karl Anderson
11. Luke Gallows
12. The Miz
13. Roman Reigns
14. Samoa Joe
15. Scott Dawson
16. Seth Rollins
17. Akira Tozawa
18. Gran Metalik
19. Hideo Itami
20. AJ Styles
21. Big E
22. Jey Uso
23. Jimmy Uso
24. Kevin Owens
25. Kofi Kingston
26. Randy Orton
27. Rusev
28. Sami Zayn
29. Shinsuke Nakamura
30. Xavier Woods
31. Adam Cole
32. Aleister Black
33. Andrade "Cien" Almas
34. Bobby Fish
35. Drew McIntyre
36. Johnny Gargano
37. Kassius Ohno
38. Killian Dain
39. Kyle O'Reilly
40. Oney Lorcan
41. Pete Dunne
42. Roderick Strong
43. Tommaso Ciampa


Seems too big to be manageable.

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Re: Help booking my rosters for MOR

Postby Jetlag » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:45 pm

I've been thinking about making a thread for rosters. Here's what I've cooked up for a mid-late 90s roster setup:

Spoiler: show
WAR

Genichiro Tenryu
Ashura Hara
Koki Kitahara
Takashi Ishikawa
Nobutaka Araya
Masao Orihara
Great Kabuki
Nobukazu Hirai
Ultimo Dragon
Jado
Gedo
Yuji Yasuraoka
Ricky Fuyuki
Arashi
Lionheart
Lance Storm
John Tenta

FMW

Atsushi Onita
Tarzan Goto
Hayabusa
Mr. Gannosuke
Jinsei Shinzaki
Kodo Fuyuki
Tetsuhiro Kuroda
Mammoth Sasaki
Hisakatsu Oya
Masato Tanaka
The Gladiator
Sambo Asako
Masanobu Kurisu
Mr. Pogo
Kintaro Kanemura
Badboy Hido
Megumi Kudo
Combat Toyoda
Bad Nurse Nakamura
Shark Tsuchiya
Flying Kid Ichihara
Ricky Fuji
Koji Nakagawa
Sabu
Mitsuhiro Matsunaga
Hideki Hosaka

UWF

Akira Maeda
Kazuo Yamazaki
Nobuhiko Takada
Shigeo Miyato
Tatsuo Nakano
Yoji Anjoh
Minoru Suzuki
Kiyoshi Tamura
Masakatsu Funaki
Norman Smiley
Bart Vale
Bob Backlund

PWFG

Yoshiaki Fujiwara
Masakatsu Funaki
Minoru Suzuki
Wayne Shamrock
Yusuke Fuke
Bart Vale
Kazuo Takahashi
Wellington Wilkins Jr.
Duane Koslowski
Ryushi Yanagisawa
Jerry Flynn
Yuki Ishikawa
Joe Malenko
Carl Greco
Dieusel Berto

IWA Japan

Shoji Nakamaki
Nobutaka Araya
Leatherface
Headhunter A
Headhunter B
Yoshihiro Tajiri
Terry Funk
Cactus Jack
Tarzan Goto


WING

Mitsuhiro Matsunaga
Mr. Pogo
Wing Kanemura
Shoji Nakamaki
Winger
Nobutaka Araya
Ryo Miyake
Jado
Gedo
Masayoshi Motegi
Masaru Toi
Hiroshi Itakura
Koichiro Kimura
Headhunter A
Headhunter B
Jason the Terrible
Leatherface
Nightmare Freddy
Gypsy Joe
Crash the Terminator
Miguel Perez Jr.

Michinoku Pro

Great Sasuke
Jinsei Shinzaki
Super Delfin
Gran Naniwa
TAKA Michinoku
Dick Togo
Shoichi Funaki
Shiryu
MEN's Teioh
Naohiro Hoshikawa
Yakushiji
Curry Man
Super Kendo
Hanzo Nakajima
Gran Hamada
Tsubo Genjin / Yone Genjin
Dos Caras
Tiger Mask IV
Pantera

BattlARTS

Yuki Ishikawa
Daisuke Ikeda
Alexander Otsuka
Katsumi Usuda
Carl Greco
Viktor Krüger
Takeshi Ono
Mohammed Yone
Naohiro Hoshikawa
Shoichi Funaki
Minoru Tanaka
Ryuji Hijikata
junji.com
Ikuto Hidaka
Masaaki Mochizuki
Naoyuki Taira
Urban Ken

Wrestle Yume Factory

Masayoshi Motegi
Shinichi Nakano
Masashi Aoyagi
Gokuaku Omibozu / Hirofumi Miura
Masakazu Fukuda
Kamikaze
Yoshiaki Fujiwara
Tadahiro Fujisaki
Azteca
Cosmo Soldier
Makoto Saito
Masaaki Mochizuki
Yoshikazu Taru
Takashi Okamura
Hiroyoshi Kotsubo
Onryo
Shinigami

RINGS

Akira Maeda
Kiyoshi Tamura
Yoshihisa Yamamoto
Tsuyoshi Kousaka
Bitsadze Tariel
Volk Han
Hans Nyman
Willie Williams
Andrej Kopylov
Mikhail Illioukhine
Mitsuya Nagai
Masayuki Naruse
Wataru Sakata
Nikolai Zouev
Dick Vrij
Tony Halme
Chris Dolman
Sotir Gotchev
Grom Zaza
Herman Renting
Willie Peeters

UWFi

Nobuhiko Takada
Kazuo Yamazaki
Yoji Anjoh
Kiyoshi Tamura
Hiromitsu Kanehara
Yoshihiro Takayama
Masahito Kakihara
Yuko Miyato
Naoki Sano
Kazushi Sakuraba
Kenichi Yamamoto
Tatsuo Nakano
Gary Albright
Super Vader
Dan Severn
Gene Lydick
Victor Zangief
Tom Burton
Billy Scott
Joe Malenko
Bad News Allen

Pancrase

Masakazu Funaki
Minoru Suzuki
Manabu Yamada
Ryushi Yanagisawa
Takaku Fuke
Wayne Shamrock
Bas Rutten
Guy Mezger
Jason Delucia
Yuki Kondo
Yoshiki Takahashi
Semmy Schilt
Sanae Kikuta


There will probably some wrestler switching around and into the FREELANCE section. AJPW and NJPW will be oriented towards their FPG roster.

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Re: Help booking my rosters for MOR

Postby kikrusher99 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:42 pm

See, but looking at fmw/wing and based on what I've heard from listening to the history of fmw pod, time frames can change things drastically. Pogo left to wing but then came back. Leatherface and the headhunters too.

My dilemma is the amount of promtions vs where wrestlers were at the time vs where I want them.

I'm really over thinking this whole thing.

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Re: Help booking my rosters for MOR

Postby senator » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:10 pm

kikrusher99 wrote:See, but looking at fmw/wing and based on what I've heard from listening to the history of fmw pod, time frames can change things drastically. Pogo left to wing but then came back. Leatherface and the headhunters too.

My dilemma is the amount of promtions vs where wrestlers were at the time vs where I want them.

I'm really over thinking this whole thing.


Think you got it right on the last line. I'd always err on the side of "where I want them" in your dilemma. Make the promotions you want to use and compete with, instead of seeking outright accuracy. Granted, that's how I'd do it, and everyone has their own preferences, but from what I'm reading here, you're more in my camp.

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Re: Help booking my rosters for MOR

Postby C-Drive » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:11 am

kikrusher99 wrote:For trying to draft wrestlers, other than sitting down... well shit, the random select in World stinks. I honestly don't know how ill do a draft. Maybe I'll just place everybody wherever I see fit.


Could a mod/software be made that pulls your Workshop subs/edits and then randomizes them there? Perhaps even filing them into separate federations from the get go?
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Re: Help booking my rosters for MOR

Postby kikrusher99 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:16 am

Damned of I know, I'm code illiterate. But it sounds easy enough to be done.

I want a base of reality with sprinkles of what if scenarios and 420 booking. I know it will get wild, and that's what I'm looking for. I'm not a stickler on time frames or boarders as if love to book Super Dragon vs Hayabusa in FMW or Cena vs Misawa in AJPW.

Guerre Sans Frontières is my ideology. Translates to war without boarders. I take this from a PWG show but also the similar ideology that Big Boss is all about in Metal Gear Solid; Militaires Sans Frontières, military without boarders.

Nothing is impossible, anybody can rise to the top. No glass ceilings.

I want to start with current rosters but then allow anybody to travel the world. I want guys being draws everywhere.

Idk, it's a start at least.

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Re: Help booking my rosters for MOR

Postby View619 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:03 am

I'll probably add 6-10 edits per promotion for accuracy & fame, then dump the rest in Free Agents and let the AI promotions select their own wrestlers/fighters.

Give certain promotions higher rank/value than others, hopefully it will allow them to recruit the higher ranking edits.

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Re: Help booking my rosters for MOR

Postby kikrusher99 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:57 am

Just spent most of my night trying to bring Pancreas to number one in Final Fire Pro's MOTR mode. Even hired Goldberg. However, I went outta business.

Very fun mode however, and gives me good ideas.

I really hope you can switch between promotions however, similar to how you could switch between wrestlers at the end of every month in the original Smackdown game.

And the mode could really benefit from mothlong booking, I think at least.

And how are you gonna know which wrestlers are best for which style?

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Re: Help booking my rosters for MOR

Postby View619 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:26 pm

kikrusher99 wrote:Just spent most of my night trying to bring Pancreas to number one in Final Fire Pro's MOTR mode. Even hired Goldberg. However, I went outta business.

Very fun mode however, and gives me good ideas.

I really hope you can switch between promotions however, similar to how you could switch between wrestlers at the end of every month in the original Smackdown game.

And the mode could really benefit from mothlong booking, I think at least.

And how are you gonna know which wrestlers are best for which style?


Probably using fight style.

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Re: Help booking my rosters for MOR

Postby kikrusher99 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:28 am

Ran an FMW promotion that seemed to be doing ok. I booked Onita vs Abby, and it got 99%. By month 8 I folded. This mode is really hard in FFP, I wonder how it will be in World. I can't wait.

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Re: Help booking my rosters for MOR

Postby KingofKings5400 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:32 am

In terms of the draft, if you want it to be random you can use this site:

https://www.miniwebtool.com/random-name-picker/

Each promotion can have a draft pick/order and the just let this tool pick wrestlers

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Re: Help booking my rosters for MOR

Postby kikrusher99 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:12 pm

KingofKings5400 wrote:In terms of the draft, if you want it to be random you can use this site:

https://www.miniwebtool.com/random-name-picker/

Each promotion can have a draft pick/order and the just let this tool pick wrestlers

Thanks. I'll have to give that a try.

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Re: Help booking my rosters for MOR

Postby kikrusher99 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:40 pm

So here is what I've come up with for a WWE roster for the game. Not many tag teams because I'm playing with the idea of making trams like All Japan and grabbing a star and a lower guy as a team.

Spoiler: show
1. Cena
2. Reigns
3. Rollins
4. Lesnar
5. Roderick
6. Itami
7. AJ Styles
8. Samoa Joe
9. HHH
10. Gargano
11. Nakamura
12. Owens
13. Zayn
14. Balor
15. Orton
16. Ohno
17. Black
18. Cien Almas
19. Daniel Bryan
20. Ken Shamrock
21. Goldberg
22. Batista
23. Ricochet
24. Adam Cole
25. Kyle O'Reilly
26. Bobby Fish
27. Ciampa
28. Undertaker
29. Kane
30. The Rock


30 wrestlers sounds huge. I'm still probably cutting to 20. But that's just my WWE roster. Now I'm probably gonna tackle NJPW.

I've already started deleting edits as well in prep for this. I'm planning on redownloading the edits once I've found edits with full logic including 12 priorities. I had a massive roster back when we only had 3 priorities so need to update the entire group since I've saved all down to edits.

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Re: Help booking my rosters for MOR

Postby kikrusher99 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:03 pm

I've removed Orton and added Rusev with WWE. I've also added New Japan and All Japan rosters.

NJPW
Spoiler: show
1. Okada
2. Goto
3. Ishii
4. Ospreay
5. Naito
6. SANADA
7. BUSHI
8. Hiromu Takahashi
9. EVIL
10. Liger
11. Omega
12. Matt Jackson
13. Nick Jackson
14. Minoru Suzuki
15. TAKA Michinoku
16. El Desperado
17. Jay White
18. Tanahashi
19. Nagata
20. Scurll
21. Hashimoto
22. Chono
23. Scott Norton
24. Kota Ibushi
25. Chris Jericho
26. Rey Mysterio
27. Shibata
28. Toru Yano
29. Zack Sabre Jr.


AJPW
Spoiler: show
1. Misawa
2. Kawada
3. Kobashi
4. Taue
5. Hansen
6. Brody
7. Great Muta
8. Miyahara
9. Joe Doering
10. Kojima
11. Vader
12. SUWAMA
13. Ishikawa
14. Akiyama
15. Tsuruta
16. Tenryu
17. Zeus
18. Bodyguard
19. Daisuke Sekimoto
20. Yuji Okabayashi
21. Kengo Mashimo
22. Ryoji Sai
23. Yoshitatsu
24. Atsushi Aoki
25. Naoya Nomura
26. Yuma Aoyagi


I'm wondering how many titles you can give any promotion. Heavy, lightweight and tag seems possible. Also, I wish we could make a triple crown championship with three belts.

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Re: Help booking my rosters for MOR

Postby kikrusher99 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:44 am

I've spent the last 2 days downloading guys and putting them in the right places. WWE is complete and I've started NJPW. Making sure the skills and parameters are good and the priorities are plentiful. I've yet to see anybody use all 12 priorities.

I'm really liking this process as I take time up front to make sure the edit is within what I believe they should be for stats and then making attires for them. Sometimes I copy over an attire from one edit to another or mix and match. Sometimes I make my own. Just finished making a SANADA attire from New Beginning. Taking a pic with my phone of each page (waist, chest, etc) has really sped up the copying over attires.

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Re: Kikrusher99's Fire Promoter ideas

Postby kikrusher99 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:57 am

I've gotten a really solid base of most the big promotions. Very happy with the amalgamation of edits I have to use when Fire promoter shows up.

So I'm thinking I'll put Rusev in All Japan. Been watching the Champion Carnival and I'd say he'd fit in quite well.

I heard on the history of FMW podcast that Hayabusa was the first wrestler from an outside company to work All Japan while under FMW contact. Onita had to ask Giant Baba if he'd allow it as a favor to Arai because Onita wasn't working with FMW at the time but was trained by Baba.

Made me think about if Hayabusa had gone to All Japan and gone Heavyweight. Guess him and Misawa were drinking buddies. What if right?

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Re: Kikrusher99's Fire Promoter ideas

Postby joshthejerseyboy » Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:42 pm

My main universe will have three big companies: ZIP Japan, Royal Ring, and OCW HP.
My medium sized companies will be the determined later


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